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"Poor treatment for mental health in ED"

About: Joondalup Health Campus / Emergency Department Neami Joondalup

(as the patient),

Late last year, I was accepted into NEAMI Step Up Step Down Program in Joondalup. It did not go well and I was exited from the program 2 weeks early. This lead to serious suicidal thoughts, I wasn’t safe. The staff from NEAMI took me to Joondalup Hospital. 

One of the NEAMI nurses spoke to the triage nurse in private. I was triaged very quickly and taken through to the MH unit and put on suicide watch for 72 hours. They had also flagged me as having violent outbursts and that I was homeless. Information I believe they must have been given by the NEAMI nurse. I did not have to wait my turn for triage. In my opinion, it seemed like patients coming from NEAMI was a common occurrence. 

When I saw the doctor I told them that I needed to be reviewed as I felt I was having serious effects from the medication I was put on a few months prior. I felt that something was very wrong. Prior to being put on the medication, I had major depression. Since then, I was having such severe behaviour I was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). I was told I needed to see a psychologist and hospital admission wasn’t what I needed. I told them if I left I was going to kill myself.

I felt the nurses treated me terribly. For those 72 hours, you sit on a bed. I felt I had no support. Nothing. I saw the social worker once. I believe it was completely unhelpful. I had a friend who would take me in so I wasn’t going to be on the street. I feel as though they thought I just wanted a bed. I was extremely scared and having severe anxiety about going into crisis accommodation. It’s not that I just didn’t want to, I knew I wouldn’t cope. 

When I left I was in such a state. I felt that the community mental health service that I was with was offering no support, I felt NEAMI made me worse and the hospital turned me away. I believe I had been labelled as non-compliant, using threats of harm as a way to get my own way and being homeless.

What I was, was defeated. I recorded a video to my child saying their parent can’t be fixed. I felt my child would have a hard life if I lived or died and it didn’t matter anymore. I took 40 tablets. I had planned to take more after I got my belongings from NEAMI. I was going to drive to the lake but it affected me quicker than I thought and I got light-headed and disoriented. I hadn’t eaten anything in 3 days. NEAMI staff called an ambulance that took me back to Joondalup. They kept me for 24 hours till I was medically cleared and discharged again. 

I don’t think they believed I took an overdose. I was only given fluids and sodium I think. No charcoal or stomach pump. When I asked the nurse for nausea medication, they didn’t get it for me. An hour passed and I started violently vomiting. Later they said it had only been 15 mins. I believe it wasn’t. The same nurse also said to me that I took an overdose, tried to kill myself, there are consequences to that and now I must suffer them. They told me not to ask them for anything else. There was a nurse who seemed sympathetic to me but I think they were a temp or less senior and couldn’t do anything. I felt everyone one else treated me awfully.

I have since managed to get help in my local area. My medication was having an adverse effect. Off it for 6 weeks without a single outburst. I’m in the Intensive Day Therapy Unit and they want to review my diagnosis as they believe the medication and the intense stress was enough to cause my behaviour alone.

As well as conflicting reports from all the treatment I had received since I was originally put on the medication, I told my new treating team that I felt like there must be “labels” that are effecting how I’m viewed. They talked me through those things, heard my side, my concerns and didn’t dismiss me. The simple fact is I am doing so much better now, which I believe goes to show that I wasn’t having BPD tantrums and that I had every right to be yelling and screaming for help. In my opinion, those services made me worse. Now I have been heard, I am being treated correctly and I am on a solid path to recovery. 

It was so traumatic. I feel NEAMI’s influence and the treatment I received by staff was appalling and could have had a very severe outcome. 

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Response from Brendon Burns, Deputy Director of Clinical Services, Executive, Joondalup Health Campus 4 years ago
Brendon Burns
Deputy Director of Clinical Services, Executive,
Joondalup Health Campus

Senior Nurse Manager

Submitted on 3/02/2020 at 10:43 AM
Published on Care Opinion at 10:44 AM


Dear Just Listen,

Thank you for contacting Patient Opinion regarding your experience last year at Joondalup Health Campus (JHC).

Whilst I am pleased to read that you were triaged very quickly, it is disappointing to read that you did not have a positive experience following your admission to JHC.

I would like the opportunity to hear from you so that I can obtain further information to investigate your concerns with the aim of improving services and the quality of care we provide. I would be grateful if you would contact our Consumer Liaison office on 08 9400 9672 for further details.

I can appreciate that you have been through a very difficult time, so it was heartening to read that you have received help and that you are doing so much better now.

Please accept our best wishes for your continued recovery.

Yours sincerely

Brendon Burns

Deputy Director of Clinical Services

Joondalup Health Campus

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Response from Care Opinion, Care Opinion Australia 4 years ago
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Submitted on 3/02/2020 at 10:43 AM
Published on Care Opinion at 10:47 AM


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This response was entered by Patient Opinion Australia on behalf of Neami National

Hi Just Listen,

I’m sorry to hear about this stressful experience, and that your experience of the support received from Neami at such a difficult time wasn’t a more positive one. Thank you for sharing this feedback with us, I know it’s not always easy to reflect on traumatic times and experiences.

At Neami Joondalup Mental Health Step up Step down (JMHSS), there are instances when the people we support require additional assistance than can be provided via a hospital admission. The safety and wellbeing of people we support is always our first concern when hospital admission is recommended. We do have a working relationship with emergency service staff at Joondalup Hospital, and when hospital admission is required, our staff aim to ensure that admission is as quick and discreet as possible, aiming to avoid long waits. My understanding is that this was the intention of the staff who were supporting your hospital admission.

As a consumer of Neami services, you have the right to expect high quality, recovery-focused and accountable services, and that you’ll be treated with dignity and respect. Neami has clear guidelines that aim to support the best possible experience of service. I’m sorry to hear that this wasn’t your experience of the Neami service in this instance.

Feedback like you’ve provided is valuable to us. It helps us better understand the experiences of service users and understand the ways that we can try to continue to improve our services, so that we can support good outcomes for people.

We’d appreciate the opportunity to discuss the feedback about your experience, if you wish to talk further. You can contact us in the Feedback and Complaints team on feedback@neaminational.org.au or by calling 03 8691 5300.

I’m glad to hear that you’re on the path to recovery now.

Warm regards,

Charlotte Kritzinger

Acting Senior Manager, Quality, Compliance & Risk (incl. Feedback & Complaints) team

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Update posted by Just Listen (the patient)

Hi Brendon,

As I have had such an ordeal I would be happy to speak to you directly. As you can appreciate it is not something I’m comfortable talking about and I am very focused on my recovery. I don’t want to drag it out, but if improvements can be made then I would like to assist.

Hi Charlotte,

I have already made a formal complaint with NEAMI. 8 pages! I have been dealing with the WA state manager and the response (1/2 a page) was, in my opinion, less than satisfactory. To the point, I feel your state manager also needs to be reviewed. My experience at NEAMI was extremely traumatic. And it’s now another event in my life I have to recover from. It doesn’t matter how unwell I am, something went so wrong I attempted to take my life. Yet the formal response is that no one is being held accountable and a few minor changes. I am not in a place where I can pursue this, I believe I have 12 months to lodge a complaint with the Commission so when I am ready I will pursue that path.

Response from Brendon Burns, Deputy Director of Clinical Services, Executive, Joondalup Health Campus 4 years ago
Brendon Burns
Deputy Director of Clinical Services, Executive,
Joondalup Health Campus

Senior Nurse Manager

Submitted on 3/02/2020 at 7:27 PM
Published on Care Opinion on 4/02/2020 at 9:50 AM


Dear Just Listen

Thank you for contacting Patient Opinion about discussing your experience with me.

I am happy to give you a call. If you ring our consumer liaison office and provide your contact telephone number and dates and times when it is best to contact you, I will give you a call.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes

Brendon Burns

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