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"Breaking the rules"

About: Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital / Acute General Medicine Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital / Intensive Care Unit Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital / Surgical Services

(as a relative),

At the time of writing this, my elderly spouse had been in Charles Gairdner hospital for over a month after major cancer surgery and was still there. Family visits are very important for their mental health as they become quite depressed. Since the COVID restrictions for visitors which have been put in place, I was told no children under 12 yet have seen toddlers on 2 occasions and my spouse has heard them on the ward.

2 visitors per patient and yet I have seen 4 family members in 1 room.

What rules? I believe the hospital staff that checked me in before I can see my loved one can’t get their facts right. When I have questioned them on several occasions, I felt they come up with vague answers. I recall they just keep saying no children under 12.

My child tried to visit my spouse with a baby and a toddler, having to travel far and on a very hot day and was turned away. This upset them and my spouse for they were unable to see their grandchildren. Yet after this incident, I saw very young children in the hospital. I question what would happen to my spouse, a high-risk patient, if they got by Covid because visitors are not checked properly. I visited regularly so I know how casual some of the check-in staff seem to be. I believe visitors could lie when entering the hospital. In my opinion, we should show proof of vaccination at least and get our temperature checked.

This has been a very distressing time for me and my children as my spouse had been in hospital so long, over Christmas, and there is no end in sight. My spouse desperately wants to come home but after major cancer surgery for the third time, they still have a long recovery time ahead of them.

Also, not previously mentioned, my spouse had several appointments they had to attend before their surgery, while they were in a lot of pain, at the hospital, where I remember their appointments ran very late and were doubled up. We had to go to the hospital on 3 separate occasions.

The first appointment was to see the surgeon which I recall was over 2 hours late which they apologised for.

The second appointment, on a different day, we had with the anaesthetist which we waited about 30 minutes.

Then afterwards, we saw the appointment’s nurse after another wait. During this time, it seemed to me other patients in the waiting room (for the morning appointments) had been and gone. Around 2 hours later, I believe as the afternoon patients arrived (and my spouse now in a lot of discomfort), we were called in to see our third appointment with a junior doctor that I felt basically repeated everything the admission nurse told us.

Then after being at the hospital for over 3 hours we get a phone call, while driving home, from the stoma nurse asking where we were and why we had not turned up for another appointment. We told the nurse that we were not told about seeing them. Because of this, we had to make another appointment to go back to see them. This was our third time back to the hospital.

So it seems to me, communication is a big problem. It was hard for my spouse having to wait for appointments going over several hours. Also again, lack of communication with the appointments was also an issue. I am under the impression the hospital is understaffed and they are under a lot of pressure, in my opinion.

I wish to state that my spouse’s care was of a high standard, however, communication seems to be an issue in the hospital.

Regards, velans59

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Response from Theresa Marshall, A/Executive Director, Mental Health, Public Health and Dental Services, North Metropolitan Health Service 2 years ago
Theresa Marshall
A/Executive Director, Mental Health, Public Health and Dental Services,
North Metropolitan Health Service
Submitted on 17/01/2022 at 11:43 AM
Published on Care Opinion at 12:11 PM


Dear velans59,

Thank you for advising us of your experiences during a very distressing time for you and your family. I understand your concerns about inconsistent messaging regarding visitors and the communication related to your spouse’s outpatient visits and I apologise most sincerely for the distress caused.

Your sharing of the details of the second appointment is upsetting and I can only imagine how tiring and frustrating the day was for you and your spouse as well as the discomfort they suffered.

We are aware that there is confusion at times with applying visitor guidelines during the COVID pandemic, as the guidelines change in response to community risk and the Department of Health information. While we communicate all changes to visitor guidelines as they occur, the organisation is large and updates sometimes take time to filter through.

Outpatient systems are continuously being reviewed as we acknowledge that appointments and wait times are not always managed in an ideal way. Many factors impact on the efficiency of outpatient systems and the North Metropolitan Health Services is currently investigating the feasibility of using an electronic system. While I know that this does not change your experience, I would like to assure you that we are trying to make improvements to the outpatient system.

Thank you so much for acknowledging the high standard of care provided to your spouse, especially during this very stressful time.

Warm regards

Theresa

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