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"My admission to emergency"

About: Joondalup Health Campus / Emergency Department

(as the patient),

I had a heart attack at home and was taken to Joondalup via ambulance to emergency.

When I got to the hospital, a junior clinician told me that I had a clot on my heart and that as I understand it, they would fix it but the clot would go to my brain and I would have a stroke and would be dead by evening. This diagnosis was given without advice from a cardiac team member. Then I had someone asking me to make a will. The best part was a seemingly very pushy staff member from admin who wanted to know if I was a private or public patient. They insisted that I sign a document when I felt I was in no fit state to do so. Another clinician in emergency told me that they were calling in the cardiac team and I was taken to CCU and believe it or not was discharged not long after.

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Response from Dr Kevin Hartley, Director of Medical Services, Joondalup Health Campus 2 years ago
Dr Kevin Hartley
Director of Medical Services,
Joondalup Health Campus
Submitted on 12/04/2022 at 1:03 PM
Published on Care Opinion on 21/04/2022 at 2:01 PM


Dear cycloneyk86,

You have clearly had a very frightening experience which, by the sounds of it, could have been managed better on our part, especially in terms of the way information was shared with, and requested from you.

A major part of your feedback does seem to be around the way we communicated with you, so I think it will help if I explain some of our processes to you to help you better understand what we expect to occur. Just keep in mind that without being able to review your medical records, the information provided is based on the assumption that you presented with cardiac-sounding chest pain.

Triage

Patients brought in by ambulance are triaged on arrival by a nurse. Triage is a process whereby patients are rated with an Australasian Triage Scale (ATS) score from 1 to 5, based on their presenting symptoms. An ATS 1 is allocated to those patients who need to be seen immediately.

Patients with chest pain are usually given a ATS 2 triage score, moved into a cubicle in the main ED, and would be seen by a doctor within 10 minutes of triage. This review would be undertaken by junior or senior clinician.

Testing, diagnosis and treatment

Once in a cubicle the nurse would perform an urgent assessment and an ECG, which is a tracing of the heart. The ECG would be shown to a senior clinician as soon as it has been printed for assessment. The senior clinician would as a priority decide if the ECG has criteria for a STEMI (acute myocardial infarct requiring emergency intervention) or not, and whether there are any other worrying features on the ECG. If a junior clinician has first seen the patient, they then discuss the case with a senior clinician to decide on appropriate management of the patient.

The clinician would always discuss their concerns regarding the presentation with the patient and explain the reason for the referral to the cardiology team. This explanation may involve discussing possible complications of myocardial infarction.

Risk assessment and discharge

Once reviewed by the cardiology team, they will do their own risk assessment of the case. They may agree that inpatient management is appropriate and the patient is admitted as planned. If the cardiology team feel that the patient is suitable for outpatient management, they may discharge the patient home. Sometimes the cardiology team may feel that the chest pain is not cardiac in nature and then may refer the patient on to a different specialty as appropriate.

Administration

When the patient first arrives in the cubicle a member of the clerical staff does need to speak to them relatively urgently to take their details. These details are necessary to expedite the admission process if admission is required and also to urgently print patient labels required for documentation and investigations.

Goals of patient care

With regard to someone asking you to make a will, I can only assume that a clinician had discussed Goals of Patient Care with you. In similar cases where there is risk of cardiac arrest, it is important, where appropriate, that the doctor has a conversation with you about what treatments would be appropriate and acceptable to you if your condition deteriorates while you are in hospital. This also gives you the opportunity to ask questions and hear the opinion of your treating clinician.

Steps moving forward

I hope this information answers your questions. Our goal is to always provide exemplary care to our patients so I am glad you have posted your story as this has given us a different perspective through which to look at our communication at the point of care.

If you would like the hospital to review your medical records and the treatment you received please contact the Consumer Liaison Team on 08 9400 9672 or email consumerliaison.jhc@ramsayhealth.com.au.

Please accept my best wishes for your future health.

Yours sincerely,

Dr Kevin Hartley

Director of Medical Services

Joondalup Health Campus

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