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"Redesign of the course"

About: Bunbury Hospital / Maternity

(as the patient),

My partner and I attended the WACHS hypnobirthing classes in preparation for our upcoming birth. I have not yet decided how I want to deliver my baby. I have left these classes feeling more confused and anxious. There were also many points raised throughout the course that when researched further, I found they were either completely wrong, or it seemed presented in a way to suit the viewpoint of the presenter and would lead a person down what I believe to be the incorrect path if they solely relied on this information. Further points are listed below, based on my experience:

- The sessions were 3hr from 6-9pm spread over 4 weeks - this is far too long, in my opinion, after a full day at work

- There was a large focus on breathing techniques, relaxations, readings

- we did at least one reading/relaxation per class often lasting 20-25 minutes, I believe this is definitely a way to reduce the length of the classes down.

- There was a lot of ‘evidence from doctors’ that was quoted, however when you researched them, they were PhD doctors (physiotherapists, midwives and acupuncturists) and most it seemed were alternative/non guideline-based views. The only obstetric/medical doctor that was referenced is a 92-year-old French man who stopped practicing in 1985. These people were all referenced collectively as “doctors” and this felt misleading and erodes trust in actual medical doctors.

- When discussing caesarean sections, they were referred to as ‘life-saving caesareans’, rather than another potential option for delivery.

- I recall this specific line was mentioned: ‘home births being the safest way to birth a baby’, then referenced by a statistic from Scandinavia stating home births are the most common method of birth. I believe this is incorrect as most births occur in hospital in Scandinavian countries.

- Pain relief options were presented fairly, and mention was made of cannulas and monitoring, however these were frequently pointed out and I felt like it was being said to say ‘look at all the cords that restrict your movement’.

- Some statistics I believe were presented incorrectly, ie: ‘99.9% of babies delivered at 41 weeks are fine’, when I found the rate of stillbirth post 41 weeks is 4-7 in 1000 and continues to increase with each day post 41 weeks.

- Certainly, how the course is presented can highly influence the take home message. One presenter urged people to ‘check with your care providers or hospital policy’ when discussing management options, whereas another presenter left the choice entirely to the mother.

- The hypnobirthing guidebook that is sent out to all participants is sent without any guidance but is discussed in the course. Interestingly the book has a disclaimer stating, “this should not be construed as constituting medical advice” and we were advised by the presenter not to print out or bring the birth plan to appointments because ‘doctors hate it’.

- The presenters also encouraged us to ‘think about lots of things in the birth plan’, however most options in the book are not what I believe to be best practice, ie: “wanting to have a perineal tear rather than an episiotomy if indicated.” There were multiple other concerning options such as “not wanting vaginal examinations”, and “wanting vaginal seeding”.

- Given the length of time of the classes, I felt very little time or information was given to forceps, vacuum or caesarean section births. This felt especially odd as the presenter went to great lengths to inform us that 37% of woman now have a caesarean section (which I believe they seemed horrified by), but only actually spoke about caesarean sections for 5 minutes out of 12 hours. Given that more than 1/3rd of the women present are likely to have a caesarean section, I think they would feel woefully unprepared.

Overall as a pre-birth class I felt it failed to prepare us for the actual birth, rather I believe it prepared us to sit comfortably on a couch and visualise a nice relaxing scenario.

My partner’s summary of the course was this: It felt like they described labour and delivery as ordering at a sandwich bar. You are presented with many choices, and every choice you make is fine, and without risk. I think we all know this is not true and women need to be prepared that there are significant risks present.

I would advocate for a redesign of the course and inclusion of obstetricians in the delivery of birthing classes so they can accurately present the realities and risks so that mothers can truly make informed decisions.

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Responses

Response from Kasey Biggar, Bunbury Hospital Antenatal Education Coordinator, WACHS South West 13 months ago
Kasey Biggar
Bunbury Hospital Antenatal Education Coordinator,
WACHS South West
Submitted on 12/04/2023 at 1:39 PM
Published on Care Opinion at 1:43 PM


Dear composerhw47

Congrats on your pregnancy and thank you for taking the time to attend the Positive Birth Program and share with us your thoughts and feelings.

WA Country Health Service strives to provide women and their birth partners with quality, evidence-based birth education, and know from the feedback we receive that the program can make a difference in both clinical and emotional outcomes surrounding pregnancy and birth. We are sorry to hear that this hasn’t been your experience.

We hold a reference group of midwives, obstetricians and consumers to ensure we continue to provide women and their partners with the best available information and education that we can. I will be sure to bring your feedback to the next meeting to discuss what we can improve on. WA Country Health Service also have a Foundations of Birth pre-recorded video series that may be more suited to your needs. If you would like, you can access the series by visiting: www.wacountry.health.wa.gov.au/News/2021/06/25/Foundations-of-birth-video-series

If you would like to discuss your experience with the classes in more detail, Katrina Jones, the Bunbury Maternity Manager, is very happy to speak with you at a time that is convenient to you. Katrina’s number is 0418 913 555. Katrina.jones2@health.wa.gov.au Alternatively, if you prefer, please feel free to contact the hospital consumer feedback team at SWfeedback@health.wa.gov.au

Thank you again for your feedback and best wishes for the birth of your baby.

Yours sincerely

Kasey Biggar

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Response from Katrina Jones, Clinical Midwifery Manager, Bunbury Hospital, WACHS South West 11 months ago
Katrina Jones
Clinical Midwifery Manager, Bunbury Hospital,
WACHS South West

(08) 9722 1348

Submitted on 29/05/2023 at 7:06 PM
Published on Care Opinion on 30/05/2023 at 8:44 AM


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Dear composerhw47,

Thankyou again for taking the time to provide feedback on the telehealth AN classes you have attended. I hope that you have accessed the alternative classes that we have provided and that you found these useful.

Your feedback is tabled on the agenda for our next reference group meeting for discussion and once again I ask that if you have any further feedback that you wish to provide please feel free to contact me on 0418 913 555. / Katrina.jones2@health.wa.gov.au or alternatively, if you prefer, please feel free to contact the hospital consumer feedback team at SWfeedback@health.wa.gov.au.

Thankyou.

Katrina Jones

Clinical Midwifery Manager

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